Saturday, June 13, 2009

Illegal Aliens get Social Security

So today I received an email from one of my family members asking to sign an email petition list against the bill being approved. Below is an cut of the email and of course I had to reply all to the email but I wanted to see if I could get more peoples comments by blogging on the same subject.

SOCIAL SECURITY CHANGES

It does not matter if you personally like or dislike Obama. You need to sign this petition and flood his e-mail box with e-mails that tell him that, even if the House passes this bill, he needs to veto it. It is already impossible to live on Social Security alone. If the government gives benefits to 'illegal' aliens who have never contributed, where does that leave those of us who have paid into Social Security all our working lives?

As stated below, the Senate voted this week to allow 'illegal' aliens access to Social Security benefits.
Attached is an opportunity to sign a petition that requires citizenship for eligibility to that social service.

Instructions are below. If you don't forward the petition and just stop it, we will lose all these names.

If you do not want to sign it, please just forward it to everyone you know.

Thank you!

To add your name, click on 'forward'. Address it to all of your email correspondents, add your name to the list and send it on.

When the petition hits 1,000, send it to
comment@whitehouse.gov

PETITION for President Obama:

Dear Mr. President:
We, the undersigned, protest the bill that the Senate voted on recently which would allow illegal aliens to access our Social Security. We demand that you and all Congressional representatives require citizenship as a pre-requisite for social services in the United States .

We further demand that there not be any amnesty give n to illegal aliens, NO free services, no funding, no payments to and for illegal immigrants " href="mailto:comment@whitehouse.gov%3E%3E" target="_blank">gov%3E>

And now for my comments.

This is a good thing if you think about it. First off illegal aliens now aren't paying taxes at all so our money is going outside the US. To be eligible for social security you have to pay taxes and you have to have worked at least 40 quarters full-time in your life. Then if you finally meet the age cutoff you can receive social security funds.

Consider it this way. The government is giving social security money away as an incentive for illegal aliens to pay taxes. I don't like anymore than any other American that illegal aliens are taking our jobs but if they are going to I want them to pay taxes just like I do. So to put it in a nutshell the government is giving away 5 dollars to make 10 or 15 dollars.

Until SBI Net, built by Boeing, comes online fully operational to prevent illegal aliens from crossing the border, let them pay taxes and for their courtesy we'll give them social security.

Here's a link to my blog. I'm going to post this same message up there but remove the names.

Enjoy,
Josh
So everybody post up their comments. I'd like to hear what everyone has to say.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

You are close with this. However, in order for a person to pay taxes into the system, they must have a vaild social security number. What happens, is the illegals are getting false ssns. A friend of mine found out her 5 yr old daughter had not only been contributing to the system, but she had also bought a house, a car and was being reported to a credit collection agency if she didn't get her accounts caught up! One good thing about this economy is illegals are now leaving the country.

Denise said...

I hate to tell you that email is a lie = it originated in 2006 with Bush and now they just inserted Obama's name

Anonymous said...

Yes Denise, You are correct. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/p/petition-illegals.htm
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/petition.asp

People misinterpret something and blow it out of preportion. Emails like this are also a way to circulate viruses.

Anonymous said...

It's a misconception that illegals don't pay taxes - they are typically employed using false soc sec #s upon which taxes are paid into the system. There have been some estimates that more than $60 billion a year are being paid into the system because of illegal immigrants, money that would disappear if the immigrants did.

Anonymous said...

Yes..taxes are being paid...but they are still comming fraud and hurting millions of honest citizens credit history. The illegal aliens are hurting our hospitals by flooding emergency rooms and skipping on the bill. This country cannot support 15 to 30 million illegal aliens . The short of it is ..THEY BROKE THE LAW GETTING HERE !!! You can dress it up any way you want...the want to better their selves by getting a job here...They are still criminals ! If an American were to slip across the border and try to work...well , lets just say their prison sentence would be long and expensive ! Let be fair. There is a right way and a wrong way. We have ignored this problem for so long I cant even understand why they havent been sent back ! They have changed the face of many small towns...mine included. They help the local economy you say . I see they start their own Mexican businesses and shop there , our small southern town now has Spanish only shops, signs written only in spanish. I donr even recognize my own town anymore. There is just too many illegal immigrants-start the deportation ASAP !
My 2 cents.

samuel said...

Well, it is not possible to give an opinion when you do not know all the facts. I do not blame you for the way you think. Most illegal immigrants fear deportation if they show up at the hospital. If your kids were hungry and you knew that up north there is a country that hires hard working people, well, my friend, let me tell you that you would be crossing that line in a heartbeat!!. If you ask any of them, they would do anything required to be legalized, but there is no process available. It is easier for a terrorist or a drug dealer to get access to this country because they have the money to pay for the costly expenses and real state requirements to come here.

Stephanie Watson said...

Illegals do pay taxes, including income tax. The IRS offers a special number to illegals so that they can pay taxes without a social security number.

Without illegal aliens social security and medicare would be broke a lot sooner.

Most economist believe that immigration, no matter what kind, is good for the economy.

Try researching the topic, you'll find that it's true and this email was just a bunch of made up crap.

Anonymous said...

gerri said... i don't like alot of things about illegal immagrants but as far as i'm concerned if they paid in to social security they should be allowed to draw it. and if they are illegal it doesn't mean that they don't have a legal social security card. u can thank the goverment for that. they take money at immagration for them to get permission for them to work and then they give them a real ssc for work perposes. if they paid it it's theirs. why should we get the money they paid in is that really fair? they should have done something a long time ago. did u know that 2 illegal aliens can come here and have a child and the child is a us citizen. if i went to mexico and had a baby there it wouldn't be a mexican citizen now would it. plus they can get benefits from the goverment for those kids cash, food, and medical. is that fair to all the kids here already that are us citizens?

Anonymous said...

All you guys are pathetic , illegals do pay taxes with the IRS number every time they pull over an immigrant ,they paid millions to the government on traffic tickets , I just hope that the day U.S goes bankrupcy all you racist people stay here and die, because if you try to go their country they will remember how bad u treat them and you are not going to be welcome , plus real talk , illegals are hard workers

James Morgan - Puritan Financial Advisor said...

We demand that you and all Congressional representatives require citizenship as a pre-requisite for social services in the United States .

Portfolio Recovery said...

Please. Please. Please. Can we please grow a pair and get a hold of illegal aliens?

BlueCross Medicare said...

On the contrary, there has been a record that by 2007, the Social Security trust fund had received a net benefit of somewhere between $120 billion and $240 billion from unauthorized immigrants.

JospehSchaffer said...

There should be some considerations when it comes to illegal aliens.

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